HW-CB10 IDEC, HW-CB10 Datasheet
HW-CB10
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HW-CB10 Summary of contents
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... Slow make double break self cleaning contacts IDEC’s HW switches are “The best engineered switch in the world” for a reason. Carrying the CE mark, UL, CSA, CCC (Chinese), and TUV approvals, these switches are designed for use in almost any part of the world. ...
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... Class 0 conforming to IEC60536 IP65 (from front of the panel) IP20 (Type HW-F contact block) NEMA 3R, 3S, 4, 4X, 5, 12, 13 (from front of panel) 3 for switches not using a transformer, 2 for switches using a transformer 10A 250V fuse conforming to IEC60269-1 ...
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... All assembled part numbers in catalog include standard, fingersafe (HW-F...) contacts. 6. Assembled units with spring-up terminals (HW-G...) can be ordered by removing an “F” from the part number (Ex. HW1B-M1F11-R becomes HW1B-M111-R). 7. Operator only models include operator plus button. 8. Additional contact configurations available ( total contacts). ...
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... Operators Plastic Style Bezel Round Flush/ Extended HW1B-M0 HW4B-MO HW1B-A0 Safety Lever Lock Style Part Number HW9Z-LS USA: 800-262-IDEC Canada: 888-317-IDEC ø22mm - HW Series Button Colors B: Black G: Green Contact Arrangement R: Red 10: 1NO 20: 2NO S: Blue 01: 1NC 02: 2NC W: White 11: 1NO-NC 22: 2NO-2NC Y: Yellow ...
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... Assembled units with spring-up terminals (HW-G...) can be ordered by removing an “F” from the part number (Ex. HW1B-M1F11-R becomes HW1B-M111-R). 8. Units with exposed screw terminals (HW-C...) must be ordered as sub- components. 9. Operator only models include operator plus button. 10. Additional contact configurations available ( total contacts). ...
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... HW1A-B3-j ø40mm Mushroom Cap HW1A-B4-j Metal Bezel 1. In place specify the Button Color Code from table. HW4B-MOL j Button Color Code Color Code Color Black B Blue HW4B-AOL Green G White Red R Yellow HW1B-M5 available only in black, red, green and yellow. – Code 505 ...
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... Assembled units with spring-up terminals (HW-G...) can be ordered by removing an “F” from the part number (Ex. HW2B-M1F11-R becomes HW1B-M111-R). 8. Units with exposed screw terminals (HW-C...) must be ordered as sub-components. 9. Operator only model includes operator and button. 10. Additional contact configurations available ( total contacts). ...
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... Plastic Style Bezel Square Flush HW2B-M0 Extended HW2B-A0 2. For nameplates and accessories, see page 546 and 549. 3. For dimensions, see page 551. USA: 800-262-IDEC Canada: 888-317-IDEC ø22mm - HW Series Button Colors B: Black G: Green Contact Arrangement R: Red 10: 1NO 20: 2NO S: Blue 01: 1NC 02: 2NC W: White ...
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... For nameplates and shrouds, see page 550. 4. For contact assembly part numbers, see page 550. 7. All HW series E-stops comply with EN418, the IEC “E-Stop Addendum to the Low Voltage Directive,” this includes “tamper proof” operation whereby a change of contact state is not possible by “ ...
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... Head Pushlock Key Reset* ø60mm Head Pushlock Turn Reset* 1. *Available in red only. 2. All E-Stop buttons are not removable from the operator. USA: 800-262-IDEC Canada: 888-317-IDEC ø22mm - HW Series Engraved Button* EMO-2: EMO switch *Option available for red EMO E-Stop only Button Colors ...
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... All HW Series E-Stop operators include non-removable color caps. 11. All HW series E-Stops comply with EN418, the IEC “E-Stop Addendum to the Low Voltage Directive,” this includes “tamper proof” operation whereby a change of contact state is not possible by “teasing” or “floating” the operator. ...
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... HW-C10 HW-C01 Exposed Screw HW-C10R HW-C01R Terminal (early make) (late break) Dummy TW-DB Block 1. There are no replacement parts for the HW1E unibody E-Stop. 2. For illuminated unibody E-Stop, see page 550 for replacement lens. Part Number Structure – – 24V Contacts 11: 1NO-1NC ...
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... HW Series 29mm Pushlock Turn Reset Contacts Plastic Bezel Metal Bezel 1NO-1NC FB1W-HW1B-V311R FB1W-HW4B-V311R 2NC FB1W-HW1B-V302R FB1W-HW4B-V302R 40mm Push-Pull Reset Contacts Plastic Bezel Metal Bezel 1NO-1NC FB1W-HW1B-Y211R FB1W-HW4B-Y211R 2NC FB1W-HW1B-Y202R FB1W-HW4B-Y202R 40mm EMO Pushlock Turn Reset Contacts Plastic Bezel 1NO-1NC FB1W-HW1B-V411R-EMO-2 ...
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... Current LED LSTDB-2 15mA 24V AC/DC ±10% Incandescent LSB-2 150mA Jumbo Dome Pilot Lights (Assembled) Actual Size * Part Number HW1A-P5 k HW9Z-PP5C k LSTDB-2 Power Lamp Rat- Consumption ings 0.36W – 3.6W 24V, 0.15A USA: 800-262-IDEC Canada: 888-317-IDEC ø22mm - HW Series Jumbo Dome 513 ...
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... HW Series Plastic Bezel Operator Only HW1P-1FQ0-k Full Voltage HW1P-1FQm-k-l 120V AC HW1P-1FH2m-k Transformer 240V AC HW1P-1FM4m-k 480V AC HW1P-1FT8m-k DC-DC Converter* 110V DC HW1P-1D2D-k Square Flush Plastic Bezel Operator Only HW2P-1FQ0-k Full Voltage HW2P-1FQm-k-l 120V AC HW2P-1FH2m-k Transformer 240V AC HW2P-1FM4m-k 480V AC HW2P-1FT8m-k DC-DC Converter* 110V DC ...
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... HW1A-P1-l Flush Dome HW1A-P2-l Square/ HW2A-P1-l Flush In place of l, specify the Lens Color Code. USA: 800-262-IDEC Canada: 888-317-IDEC ø22mm - HW Series Lamp Voltage (full voltage units only) 6V: 6V AC/DC Lens/LED Colors 12V: 12V AC/DC A: Amber 24V: 24V AC/DC G: Green 120V: 120V AC* ...
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... HW Series Illuminated Full Voltage Pushbuttons Flush Contacts Plastic Bezel Operator Only HW1L-M1-k 1NO HW1L-M1F10Qm-k-l 1NC HW1L-M1F01Qm-k-l 1NO-1NC HW1L-M1F11Qm-k-l 2NO HW1L-M1F20Qm-k-l Operator Only HW1L-A1-k 1NO HW1L-A1F10Qm-k-l 1NC HW1L-A1F01Qm-k-l 1NO-1NC HW1L-A1F11Qm-k-l 2NO HW1L-A1F20Qm-k-l Illuminated Transformer Pushbuttons Flush Contacts Plastic Bezel Operator Only ...
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... HW-LH3 HW-DA1FB HW-DA1B 1. All assembled part numbers in catalog include standard fingersafe (HW-F...) contacts. 2. Assembled units with spring-up terminals (HW-G...) can be ordered by removing an “F” from the part number (Ex. HW1B-M1F11-R becomes HW1B-M111-R). HW-GA1 3. Units with exposed screw terminals (HW-C...) must be ordered as sub-components. ...
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... HW Series Illuminated Mushroom & Square Pushbuttons (Assembled) Contacts Plastic Bezel Operator Only † HW1L-M4-k 1NO HW1L-M4F10Qm-k-l Momentary 1NC HW1L-M4F01Qm-k-l 1NO-1NC HW1L-M4F11Qm-k-l 2NO HW1L-M4F20Qm-k-l Operator Only † HW1L-A4-k 1NO HW1L-A4F10Qm-k-l Maintained 1NC HW1L-A4F01Qm-k-l 1NO-1NC HW1L-A4F11Qm-k-l 2NO HW1L-A4F20Qm-k-l 1NO-1NC HW1L-M4F11lm-k Momentary 2NO ...
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... HW-LH3 HW-DA1FB HW-DA1B 1. All assembled part numbers in catalog include standard fingersafe (HW-F...) contacts. 2. Assembled units with spring-up terminals (HW-G...) can be ordered by removing an “F” from the part number (Ex. HW1B-M1F11-R becomes HW1B-M111-R). HW-GA1 3. Units with exposed screw terminals (HW-C...) must be ordered as sub-components. ...
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... Assembled units with spring-up terminals (HW-G...) can be ordered by removing an “F” from the part number (Ex. HW1B- M1F11-R becomes HW1B-M111-R). 5. Units with exposed screw terminals (HW-C...) must be ordered as sub-components. 6. Standard color for knob and lever is black. 7. Optional colors available for lever type. Must order in compo- nents ...
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... See part numbers below. Levers & Inserts Style Part Number Lever ASWHHL-j Lever Color TW-HC1-j Insert Standard lever color is black. Standard insert color is white. USA: 800-262-IDEC Canada: 888-317-IDEC ø22mm - HW Series F 10 Contact Arrangement 10: 1NO 11: 1NO-1NC 20: 2NO Handle T: Knob L: Lever + Operator = Completed Unit ...
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... HWnS-31TF04 HWnS-32TF04 7. All assembled part numbers in catalog include standard fingersafe (HW-F...) contacts. 8. Assembled units with spring-up terminals (HW-G...) can be ordered by removing an “F” from the part number (Ex. HW1B-M1F11-R becomes HW1B-M111-R Units with exposed screw terminals (HW-C...) must be ordered as sub-components. 10. Standard color for knob and lever is black. ...
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... See part numbers below. Levers & Inserts Style Part Number Lever ASWHHL-j Lever Color TW-HC1-j Insert Standard lever color is black. Standard insert color is white. USA: 800-262-IDEC Canada: 888-317-IDEC ø22mm - HW Series F 20 Contact Arrangement 11: 1NO-1NC 20: 2NO 21: 2NO-1NC Handle 22: 2NO-2NC T: Knob 40: 4NO L: Lever 04: 4NC + ...
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... Assembled units with spring-up terminals (HW-G...) can be ordered by removing an “F” from the part number (Ex. HW1B-M1F11-R becomes HW1B-M111-R). 8. Units with exposed screw terminals (HW-C...) must be ordered as sub- components. 9. Standard color for knob and lever is black. 10. Optional colors available for lever type. Must order in components. See next page for part numbers ...
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... Levers & Inserts Style Part Number Lever ASWHHL-j Lever Color TW-HC1-j Insert Standard lever color is black. Standard insert color is white. USA: 800-262-IDEC Canada: 888-317-IDEC ø22mm - HW Series 13N6 Contact Arrangement (based on desired truth table) 12: 1NO-2NC 13N6: 1NO-3NC 22N3: 2NO-2NC + Operator = Completed Unit Description Handle ...
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... Key is retained in “Spring Return” position. 9. All assembled part numbers in catalog include standard fingersafe (HW-F...) contacts. 10. Assembled units with spring-up terminals (HW-G...) can be ordered by removing an “F” from the part number (Ex. HW1B-M1F11-R becomes HW1B-M111-R). 11. Units with exposed screw terminals (HW-C...) must be ordered as sub-components. ...
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... Style Description Maintained Maintained, key removed left only Spring Return from Right 1. Operator includes two keys. 2. All standard operators are keyed alike. USA: 800-262-IDEC Canada: 888-317-IDEC ø22mm - HW Series 10 Contact Arrangement 10: 1NO 20: 2NO 11: 1NO-1NC 22: 2NO-2NC + Operator = Completed Unit Plastic Bezel Metal Bezel ...
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... Assembled units with spring-up terminals (HW-G...) can be ordered by removing an “F” from the part number (Ex. HW1B-M1F11-R becomes HW1B-M111- R). 11. Units with exposed screw terminals (HW-C...) must be ordered as sub-components. 12. Additional contact configurations available ( total contacts). 13. For Truth Tables see page 558. ...
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... Style Description Maintained (standard cam) Maintained (S cam) Maintained (J cam) Spring Return from Right (standard cam) HW1K-31B Spring Return from Left (standard cam) 2-Way Spring Return (standard cam) 1. Operator includes two keys. 2. All standard operators are keyed alike. 3. Other key removable options available. See table on previous page. ...
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... Light is independent of switch position. 8. All assembled part numbers in catalog include standard fingersafe (HW-F...) contacts. 9. Assembled units with spring-up terminals (HW-G...) can be ordered by removing an “F” from the part number (Ex. HW1B-M1F11-R becomes HW1B-M111-R). 10. Units with exposed screw terminals (HW-C...) must be ordered as sub-components. ...
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... Spring Up 480V 120V 240V Exposed 480V DC-DC Converter 110VDC 1. HW-GA1 “Dummy Block with full voltage adaptor” does not require the use of HW-LH3. 2. DC-DC convertor features spring-up terminals. 3. DC-DC convertor applicable voltage range 90-140V DC. Operators Plastic Appearance Description Bezel Maintained ...
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... HWnF-3F04T8m-k HWnF-31F04T8m-k k Lens/LED Color terminals (HW-G...) can be ordered by removing an “F” from the part number Color Code (Ex. HW1B-M1F11-R becomes HW1B- Amber A M111-R). Green G (HW-C...) must be ordered as sub- components. Red R Blue S with white LED. White W available ( total contacts). Yellow Y www.idec.com Oiltight Switches & Pilot Devices ...
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... Spring Up 480V 120V 240V Exposed 480V DC-DC Converter 110VDC 1. HW-GA1 “Dummy Block with full voltage adaptor” does not require the use of HW-LH3. 2. DC-DC convertor features spring-up terminals. 3. DC-DC convertor applicable voltage range 90-140V DC. Operators Plastic Appearance Description Bezel Maintained ...
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... Spring return right and left 1. All assembled part numbers in catalog include standard (HW-F...) contacts. 2. Assembled units with spring-up terminals (HW-G...) can be ordered by removing an “F” from the part number (Ex. HW1B-M1F11-R becomes HW1B-M111-R). 3. Units with exposed screw terminals (HW-C...) must be ordered as sub-components. ...
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... Appearance Standard Interlocking Replacement Parts Item Part Number Black Cap HW9Z-CPM Boot HW9Z-BLM (fits standard operator only) USA: 800-262-IDEC Canada: 888-317-IDEC ø22mm - HW Series 1 20 Circuit Number (see contact arrange- ment on previous page) + Operator = Completed Unit Part Number HW9Z-RL Description Part Number ...
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... HW-F10 0 1. All assembled part numbers in catalog include standard (HW-F...) contacts. 2. Assembled units with spring-up terminals (HW-G...) can be ordered by removing an “F” from the part number (Ex. HW1B- M1F11-R becomes HW1B-M111-R). 3. Units with exposed screw terminals (HW-C...) must be ordered as sub-components. 4. Additional contact configurations available ( total contacts). ...
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... Combination, 4 position Combination, 4 position Spring return, 4 position Replacement Parts Item Part Number Black Cap HW9Z-CPM Boot HW9Z-BLM (fits standard operator only) USA: 800-262-IDEC Canada: 888-317-IDEC ø22mm - HW Series 1 30 Circuit Number 3 Position Position: 22N9 + Operator = Completed Unit Part Number HW9Z-RL Part Number ...
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... Assembled units with spring-up terminals (HW-G...) can be ordered by removing an “F” from the part number (Ex. HW1B-M1F11-R becomes HW1B-M111-R). 3. Units with exposed screw terminals (HW-C...) must be ordered as sub- components. 4. Operator only models come with operator and button. 5. Additional contact configurations available ( total contacts). ...
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... Part Number HW9Z-RL Use with notched panel cutout to prevent unit rotation. Operators Appearance Description Cam A Cam D Cam E Cam F Cam N Cam T USA: 800-262-IDEC Canada: 888-317-IDEC ø22mm - HW Series Button Colors B: Black G: Green R: Red S: Blue W: White Y: Yellow N: Gray + Button = Completed Unit Buttons Style Part Number ...
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... Flush (bottom) Interlock* Flush (top) Extended (bottom) 1. *Interlock type prevents both top and bottom buttons from being pressed simultaneously. 2. Clear silicon rubber cover part number HW9Z-D7D. 3. Additional contact configurations available ( total contacts). 540 Dual Pushbutton Switches Dual Pushbutton Switches (Assembled) Part Numbers ...
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... Clear silicon rubber cover part number HW9Z-D7D. 3. All assembled part numbers in catalog include standard (HW-F...) contacts. 4. Assembled units with spring-up terminals (HW-G...) can be ordered by removing an “F” from the part number (Ex. HW1B-M1F11-R becomes HW1B-M111-R). 5. Units with exposed screw terminals (HW-C...) must be ordered as sub-components. ...
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... Interlock (Flush/Flush) 10: 1NO 22: Interlock (Flush/Extended) Contact Blocks + Lamp Circuit Components with Fingersafe Terminals Style Description For use with HW-CBL on all illuminated Lead Holder pushbutton units. One required for each deck (pair) of contacts. Dummy Block For use with odd with Full Voltage number of contacts ...
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... Contact Block Top Button Bottom Button Type Normal Push Normal Push Dummy Dummy Dummy Dummy Dummy Dummy Dummy Dummy Dummy Dummy USA: 800-262-IDEC Canada: 888-317-IDEC ø22mm - HW Series Contact Block Mounting Position Example Mounting Position 4 Mounting Position 2 X Mounting Position 3 Mounting Position 543 ...
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... HW Series Contact Arrangement Chart (con’t) Contact Arrangement Contact Block Top But- Bottom Contact Mounting ton Button Code Position 1 2 2NC 1NO 0210 2NC 1NC 0201 2NO 2NO 2020 2NO 1NO-1NC 2011 2NO 2NC 2002 1NO-1NC 2NO 1120 1NO-1NC 1NO-1NC ...
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... Contactor Reset Button (Sub-assembled) + Operator + Button Button Appearance In place of j Color Code from table. j Button Color Code Color Code Black B Green G Red R Blue S USA: 800-262-IDEC Canada: 888-317-IDEC ø22mm - HW Series Code Completed Unit Part Number HW1A-B1-j , specify the Button Color Code White W Yellow Y Gray N 545 ...
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... Character height based on the number of characters and size of nameplate. Standard character size is 3/16”. 3. Nameplates with standard legends are the same list price as blank nameplates. 4. Nameplates have built-in anti-rotation feature for use with notched panel cut-outs. Additional anti-rotation ring (HW9Z-RL) is not necessary. 546 Nameplates - HW Series HWAQ– ...
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... Engraving Location B Step 3. Specify Location. Enter the location of engraving (A or B), in box on the right. Nameplates Order Form — HW Series IDEC Rep/Distributor Contact: PO number (if known): IDEC Rep/Distributor Phone: IDEC Rep/Distributor Fax & Email: 7/64” 11 characters maximum Letter (for 7/64” ...
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... Please enter text exactly how you want it engraved, take care to emphasize capital or small letters. Enter text to be engraved: Line 1: Line 2: Line 3: Line 4: For IDEC Internal Use Only: Work Order #: 548 Switch Engraving Order Form – HW Series Part Number to be Engraved: Round Switch # of Letter Max. Characters Lines Height ...
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... Switch Cover (Square) Replacement Keys Accessories Description/Usage Metallic tool used to tighten the plastic locking ring when installing the HW series in a panel Rubber tool makes lamp/LED removal easier. Prevents rotation of switches in panel. (included with all assembled switches except pilot lights) Black rubber plug fills unused 7/8” mounting holes in panel. ...
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... SEMATECH Compliant Contact Assemblies Full Voltage Contact Assemblies For use with Illuminated Pushbuttons. Part Number Style HW-CBF10 HW-CBF01 HW-CBF11 HW-CBF20 HW-CBF02 HW-CBF22 Order lamp separately. HW-CB10 HW-CB01 HW-CB11 HW-CB20 HW-CB02 HW-CB22 www.idec.com Oiltight Switches & Pilot Devices Part Number HWLV-LENSR HW1A-P5j HW9Z-PP5C ...
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... Panel Thickness 0 50 blocks) 30 70.2 (4 blocks) Contact Block (Bottom View) 1 contact block 2 contact blocks 4 contact blocks USA: 800-262-IDEC Canada: 888-317-IDEC ø22mm - HW Series ø29mm Mushroom (HW1B-M3 -A3) M3.5 Terminal Screw Panel Thickness Locking Ring 0 29.4 50 blocks) 23.2 70.2 (4 blocks) Square Flush (HW2B-M1, -A1) M3 ...
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... Mushroom 13 23.2 Gasket Locking Ring 50 blocks ) 13 70 blocks ) 32 ø40mm Head EMO Pushlock Turn Reset (HW1B-V4) Locking Ring 50 blocks) 13 70.2 (4 blocks) ø60mm Head Pushlock Turn Reset (HW1B-V5) 29.4 15 34.5 www.idec.com Oiltight Switches & Pilot Devices Extended 29.4 29.4 Dimensions (mm) 29 ...
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... HW1E-BV4 HW1E-LV4 .2 (NC) .3 (NO) .1 (NC) .4 (NO) (1NO-1NC) Emergency Stop Stations A 76 HW1B-V4R Box Cover Mouting Screws Box Cover ø40mm Head Unibody Pushlock Turn Reset (HW1B-BV4) Panel Thickness 0 M3.5 Terminal Screw Terminal Cover Mounting Hole Unit HW1B-V3 HW1B-V4 14 HW1B-X4 32 HW1B-Y2 HW1B-V5 TOP ...
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... HW Series Pilot Lights Full Voltage Panel Thickness 0 Gasket M3.5 Terminal Screw Locking Ring X2 X1 0.5 44.7 7 Transformer Flush M3.5 Terminal Screw 72.1 7 29.6 DC-DC Converter Flush M3.5 Terminal Screw 29.6 76.2 Jumbo Dome Pilot Lights Panel Thickness M3.5 Terminal Screw ...
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... Locking Ring 7 29 29.4 30.5 Transformer Model M.3.5 Terminal 7 29.4 Screw 21 USA: 800-262-IDEC Canada: 888-317-IDEC ø22mm - HW Series Dimensions (mm) X2 Locking Ring Dimensions (mm) Terminal Wiring Arrows indicate access directions for wiring. Contact Block Full Voltage Adaptor Tranformer 89 blocks ) 29.4 109 blocks ) 21 555 ...
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... HW Series Dual Pushbutton Without Pilot Light 49.4 (2 contacts) 69 contacts) Panel Thickness 0 Safety Lever Lock Locking Ring Rubber Gasket 0.5 14.5 20 With Pilot Light Full Voltage Full Voltage Adapter (Bottom Button) (Top Button) 69.4 (2 contacts), 89.4 (4 contacts) (Note) Transfomer (240V minimum) Transformer 79 ...
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... Safety Lever Lock Safety Lever Lock Screwdriver Contact Block Mounting Adapter HW9Z-KG2 TOP Marking TOP Marking Operator Panel Thickness: 1 HW9Z-KG4 USA: 800-262-IDEC Canada: 888-317-IDEC ø22mm - HW Series OR-55 Lamp/LED Removal Tool TOP 59 HW-VL1 Barrier 20 1.5 Remove Safety Lever Lock Lever Lock Operator Panel 36.5 ...
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... HW1S-3ST is identified by red plungers on the operator. 5. HW1S-3JT is identified by black plungers on the operator. www.idec.com Oiltight Switches & Pilot Devices Conforming to IED 947-5-1 Appendix C. Utilization categories AC-15 and DC-13. Operation rate: 1,800 op. hour Load factor: Inductive 0.4 ± 0.05 Resistive 0.9 ± 0.05 ...
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... IDEC strongly recommends using the safety lever lock (HW9Z-LS, yellow) to prevent heavy vibration or maintenance personnel from unlocking the contact assembly series can be mounted vertically with a minimum spacing but spacing should be determined to ensure easy operation (recommended minimum spacing: 100 mm). 2. Mount the control unit onto the panel, lock the lever, and push in the safety lever lock to install ...
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... Installing the Rubber Cover When using the HW7D pushbuttons in places where the pushbuttons are subjected to water splash or an excessive amount of dust, make sure to use the HW9Z-D7D rubber boot (IP65) which is ordered separately. Notes for Installing the Rubber Cover ...